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6 - Deepermind and Catholic Church

About 2,000 years ago, in the ancient city of Rome, a small religious movement began to emerge. This movement, inspired by the teachings of a man named Jesus Christ, preached love, compassion, and a new way of living. At first, it faced opposition and persecution from the powerful Roman Empire, which ruled over much of the known world.

Despite the challenges, the message of this movement continued to spread, reaching people from all walks of life. Then, in a remarkable turn of events, Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan in 313 AD, granting tolerance to Christianity. This was a pivotal moment, marking the beginning of official recognition and acceptance of the Christian faith within the empire.

As Christianity gained prominence, its relationship with the Roman government evolved. By the 4th century AD, Emperor Theodosius I declared Christianity the official state religion, solidifying the Church's ties with the imperial authorities.

In the following centuries, the Catholic Church grew in power and influence, becoming a central institution in the lives of people across Europe. It played a significant role in shaping both spiritual and temporal affairs, with the pope wielding considerable authority as both a religious and political leader.

One of the most significant conflicts during this time was the Investiture Controversy, which spanned the 11th and 12th centuries. This conflict centered around the question of who had the authority to appoint bishops and other church officials: the pope or secular rulers. It was a contentious issue that tested the boundaries of power between the Church and various European governments.

Despite these conflicts, the Catholic Church continued to assert its authority over temporal and spiritual matters through the doctrine of papal supremacy. This doctrine held that the pope had ultimate authority over both the spiritual and secular realms, making him a formidable figure in medieval Europe.

However, the power and influence of the Church began to wane in the 19th century, as secular forces such as nationalism and the rise of modern nation-states challenged its authority. In 1870, the Papal States, which had long been a symbol of the Church's temporal power, were annexed by the Kingdom of Italy, signaling the end of an era.

Despite these changes, the Catholic Church remains a prominent institution in Rome and around the world, continuing to influence spiritual and moral discourse. Its long and complex history with the government of Rome serves as a reminder of the enduring power of faith and the ever-evolving dynamics between religion and politics.

The Catholic Church promotes an imaginary world, sets up what is sinful, and makes people feel guilty when they commit sins.  Sex is good for us.  The prostate needs draining for health.  Without sex there would be no people.  The Church wants large families but no sex. This is a double standard.  The Trinity was developed through writings and theological debates at the Council of Nicaea (325 AD) and the Council of Constantinople (381AD).  Truth cannot be established though people voting on things.  The Bible is also a double standard.  It has mistakes, contradictions, areas which make do sense.  We need to think for our selves. If we ask God directly we will get much better answers.  This passage is a mistake:  Proverbs 3:5-6: "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight."  When need to lean on ourselves as today we have more tools which to use to be correct and wise. 

But still we need to run what we think through God (not the Bible).  For instance: James 1:5: "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him."John 14:1-3: "Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; 1 Corinthians 13:4-7: "Love is patient, love is kind..."  So these passages if talking about talking to God personally, are good and wise.

Again the Bible really messes up when it indorses slavery:  There are at least seven passages in the Bible where God is depicted as directly permitting or endorsing slavery. Two of these are in the Law of Moses: God permitted the Israelites to take slaves from conquered peoples permanently, and the Israelites could sell themselves into slavery temporarily to pay off debts (Exod 21:2-11; Lev 25:44-46). The other five passages are in the New Testament, where slavery as a social institution is endorsed and slaves are called to obey their masters “in everything” (Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20).

So the Bible in some parts is completely morally wrong. The Bible reports that God is a great killer.  The New Testament repeats the truth taught in Genesis that only eight people survived the global Flood (1 Peter 3:20). Every person outside the Ark when the Flood began perished. How many people in all lost their lives at that time? We don't know, but only eight survived.  It is interesting that we such a huge gene pool on earth today, how could all our dependents come from these eight people?  There is evidence that it never happened. So the Bible's flood story is make believe.  

Lets look at some of the prayers important to Catholics. Parts of them are true if you believe that there is a God within us that helps us be mentally healthy.  The God inside us keeps all the brain cells more or less on the same page.  This God is real and is in the software of our brain, and if God was not there, there would be all kinds of conflicts and wars within our brain as our brain has 86 billion brain cells and 100 trillions of synapses.  Something needs to regulate all these brain parts.

Also nature was created by God.  This is really apparent if you study any biology.  How can a human being begin a little speck called a fertilized ovum?  We have over 37 trillion cells in the human body.  How to they get assembled and how to they know what to do and work in unison to keep us alive and productive?

The workings of the human body and how the God inside us works with nature are mysteries.  There is so much we do not know.  But people like to make things up, but they do not have the capacity to know this much as understand.

The Lord's Prayer

The Lord's Prayer holds deep significance for Christians and is often regarded as a model for how to pray. Each line of the prayer carries profound meaning and teaches important principles of faith and devotion. Here's a breakdown of the meaning behind each part:

1. "Our Father, who art in heaven": This establishes a personal and intimate relationship between the individual and God, acknowledging God as a loving and caring Father who is also transcendent and holy.  Deepermind: We relocate heaven as within our brain/mind.  God is the harmonizer of the brain, and serves as a gateway between the person and the greater God.

2. "Hallowed be thy Name": This line expresses reverence and adoration for God's name, affirming His holiness and acknowledging His greatness. Deepermind: Since God is the harmonizer, He is holy and great.

3. "Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven": This part of the prayer expresses a desire for God's kingdom to be established on earth and for His will to be carried out. It reflects the believer's submission to God's plan and purpose. Deepermind: Instead of establishing a kingdom on earth, we have a desire to have heaven on earth by having God optimize our brains.

4. "Give us this day our daily bread": This line acknowledges human dependence on God for daily sustenance, both physical and spiritual. It expresses trust in God's provision. Deepermind: We trust nature to continue and the we stay confident in finding what we need. 

5. "And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us": This is a plea for forgiveness of sins, accompanied by a commitment to forgive others. It emphasizes the importance of forgiveness in the Christian faith and the reciprocal nature of forgiveness. Deepermind: We promise to do the best we can, and thus we do not intentionally create any evil or mistakes.

6. "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil": This line acknowledges human frailty and the need for God's guidance and protection from temptation and evil forces. Deepermind: same.

7. "For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen": This final part of the prayer emphasizes the greatness and sovereignty of God, acknowledging His eternal reign and offering praise and worship. Deepermind: same

Overall, the Lord's Prayer encompasses themes of worship, submission to God's will, dependence on God for provision and forgiveness, and reliance on His guidance and protection. It serves as a guide for Christian prayer and encapsulates fundamental aspects of Christian faith and practice.

Deepermind prospective is similar, but God is our interface to the greater God who created the universe (nature).

The Hail Mary

The Hail Mary is composed of two main parts, the first part directly quoting the words of the Angel Gabriel to Mary in the Gospel of Luke, and the second part being a petition for her intercession. Here's the prayer line by line:

1. "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee": This line is a direct quote from Luke 1:28, where the Angel Gabriel greets Mary during the Annunciation. It acknowledges Mary's special favor with God and her unique role in salvation history. Deepermind: Never happened.

2. "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus": This line continues the greeting of the Angel Gabriel and expresses reverence for Mary's blessedness among all women, as well as acknowledging the blessedness of Jesus, her son and the Savior of humanity. Deepermind: Never happened.

3. "Holy Mary, Mother of God": This line acknowledges Mary's holiness and her role as the mother of Jesus, who is both fully human and fully divine, affirming the doctrine of the Incarnation. Deepermind: There is no mother of God.

4. "Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death": This line is a petition for Mary's intercession on behalf of sinners, asking her to pray for us both in the present moment and at the time of death, when we are in most need of her prayers. Deepermind: We can ask God directly to help us.

5. "Amen": This word concludes the prayer, affirming the truth and importance of the preceding words and expressing agreement with the prayer's sentiments.

The Apostles' Creed

The Apostles' Creed is one of the oldest and most widely used statements of Christian faith. It summarizes the core beliefs of Christianity and is recited by Christians around the world. Here's an explanation of each line of the Apostles' Creed:

1. "I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth": This line affirms belief in the one God who is the Father, the all-powerful Creator of the universe, emphasizing His sovereignty and role as the originator of all things. Deepermind: The same.

2. "And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord": This line asserts belief in Jesus Christ as the only Son of God and acknowledges His lordship over believers, signifying both His divinity and authority. Deepermind: Jesus Christ represents the ideal man.  Jesus is not God.

3. "Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary": This line highlights the miraculous conception of Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit and His birth from the Virgin Mary, affirming the doctrine of the Incarnation. Deepermind: Mary was not a virgin as she gave birth.

4. "Suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried": This line refers to the historical events of Jesus' suffering, crucifixion, death, and burial, emphasizing the real and physical nature of His human experience and His sacrificial death for humanity's sins. Deepermind: This could be true

5. "He descended into hell": This line varies in interpretation among different Christian traditions. Some interpret it as referring to Jesus' descent into the realm of the dead, where He proclaimed victory over sin and death, while others understand it symbolically as His experience of separation from God during His crucifixion.  Deepermind:  There is no hell.  Why would God be so mean that He would cause suffering for ever?

6. "On the third day He rose again from the dead": This line affirms the central Christian belief in Jesus' resurrection, signifying His victory over death and His fulfillment of God's promises, as foretold in Scripture.  Deepermind:  This is pure fantasy.

7. "He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty": This line affirms Jesus' ascension into heaven and His exaltation to the right hand of God, signifying His authority, power, and ongoing role as mediator between God and humanity. Deepermind: Jesus was not God, and there is no heaven except on earth.

8. "From there He will come to judge the living and the dead": This line expresses belief in Jesus' eventual return in glory to judge all humanity, both the living and the dead, according to their deeds and faith.  Deepermind:  God judges way too much, killing innocent people.  The only real punishment we face are the consequences and the closeness of God.

9. "I believe in the Holy Spirit": This line affirms belief in the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, who is understood as the divine presence and power at work in the world and in the lives of believers. Deepermind: There is no need for a Trinity.

10. "The holy catholic Church, the communion of saints": This line acknowledges belief in the universal (catholic) Church, consisting of all believers across time and space, and in the spiritual unity and fellowship shared among all members of the Church, both on earth and in heaven. Deepermind:  The church invents a new reality, and has made many mistakes and needs to be humble.

11. "The forgiveness of sins": This line affirms belief in the forgiveness of sins through the atoning work of Jesus Christ, emphasizing the central Christian teaching of redemption and reconciliation with God.  Deepermind: There are no such things as sins, there are only mistakes.  As we talk with God, we can learn how to make fewer mistakes.

12. "The resurrection of the body": This line expresses belief in the bodily resurrection of believers at the end of time, in accordance with Christian hope and eschatological expectation. Deepermind:  This will not happen.

13. "And the life everlasting. Amen": This line affirms belief in eternal life with God for believers, expressing confidence in the fulfillment of God's promises and the ultimate triumph of His kingdom, and concludes the Creed with the word "Amen," signifying agreement and affirmation of the preceding statements of faith.


1. New Truth, New God (new)

2. Tacking Complex Subjects

3. The Problems with Religion

4. Meditation and the Proof of the Core Self

5. The History of Consciousness (new)

6.  Deepermind and the Catholic Church (new)

7.  Mary and the Time Machine (new)

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